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Are Police or Bad Guys Winning?

19 June 2007, 10:00 AM MDT

Read more about Lt. Harold Prudencio
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Read more about Sgt. Louis Heckroth

Transcript

juan:

I want to include some crime prevention tips in the next VHNA newsletter.

Can you send me some info on how it is safer at night when residents put their lights on (to keep criminals away)?

Also, if it is safer to park in the drive way, rather than the street? 3 vehicles were stolen on my street this weekend.

Muchisimas gracias.
Sgt. Louis Heckroth:
Juan,
I would like you to call our crime prevention specialist Steve Sink at 924-3600. He should be able to provide you will lots of great information on crime prevention and statistics. Thanks for your question.
Rochelle:
Good Morning! My home was broken into on april 30, 2007. The officers that were dispatched to the scene were great, and they even managed to get finger prints off the jewerly box, as well as the closet doors. Can you tell me about how long I should expect to hear from the detectives about ANY results on those prints? I have spoke to one detective about the stolen articles, but he informed me that nothing else was available at that time.Thank you for your time.
Lt. Harold Prudencio:
Good Morning Rochelle. Sorry to hear about your burglary. If you can send me a case number or your full name and address where it occurred I can get a response back to you within the week. Hopefully we will be able to identify an offender on your burglary.Some times the prints belong to the victim or they are not workable. Lets hope they belong to a known offender and we can apprehend him.
Sally Kennedy:
Chief Schultz: Thank you for the amazing job that you and APD are doing. I realize we have many challenges to tackle and I applaud your doing so. My question is: do you advise keeping registration and proof of insurance in the glove compartment, or on one's person? Thank you.
Sgt. Louis Heckroth:
Sally,

Thank you for your compliments and we are working very hard. The Chief is currently attending a funeral, so I will address your question. We do recommend that you keep registration and insurance in your vehicle. Please remember never to leave your title in the vehicle. Other items not to leave in the vehicle are any items which include your personal information such as date of birth or social security number.
Andrew:
Chief Schultz,

First i would like to thank you for the job you and your officers do on a daily basis. With the exception of a few bad apples, you guys go a great job!

My question is what priority is given to the evidence taken from the scene given the fact that all we hear is that the crime lab is months behind on more serious crimes (i.e. murder, assult, etc.)
Ray Schultz:
Andrew,

At the moment the Chief is at a funeral service will be available shortly. We have two APD property crime experts here right now, would you like for them to respond?
Andrew:
Why not broadcast a stolen vehicle report during the day on the radio or TV so you can have "extra" eyes out there? This might discourage some auto thefts. Some newspapers across the country print a daily report of crimes, maybe our local newspapers could print a list of cars stolen the previous day.
Lt. Harold Prudencio:
Good morning Andrew. That is a great question. I am also the supervisor of the Crime Stoppers Unit and we were actually thinking of putting a picture of a recently stolen vehicle on our Crime Stoppers billboards. Sergeant Heckroth of my Auto Theft Unit has also started gathering the information on a daily bases and getting the information out to his unit and other specialized units so we can take a proactive approach to the auto theft problem. I also am working on a meeting with the news director of channel 13 and I will talk with the Journal personnel today.
Eileen Ross:
I have read that thiefs are able to copy VIN numbers of parked and locked cars, go to dealerships and get a new key while they pose as owners. True?
Sgt. Louis Heckroth:
Eileen,
Good morning and thank you for this question. The only way they should be able to get a copy of the key for your vehicle is if they provide the dealership with some type of ownership information, such as title, registration and identification. So as long as the thief does not have this information he should not be able to get a copy of your key.
Justin:
I have a wife and young son. If my home is broken into while we are home, am I within my rights to use any force necessary to protect my family and property?
Lt. Harold Prudencio:
Good morning Justin. That is a great question. That question can not be answered with a blanket answer. I can tell you that you do have a right to protect your family and your property. If you feel that your life or your family's life is in danger you can us any force necessary to protect you and your family up to and including deadly force. Also if the offender is no longer a threat to you or your family or you do not feel they are a threat to the general public you may not use deadly force. I hope that answers your question.
Keith Dennis:
How about a weekly or monthly map, maybe an eighth of a page, in the Journal to reflect the areas of residential crime? Other newspapers and police departments across the country have taken this action, even with the streets named. Helps keep a broader neighborhood watch for crime.
Lt. Harold Prudencio:
Good morning Keith. I just spoke with Journal personnel and they advised it may be something that they may be able to do. They may be able to do it on line but probably not in the newspaper on a daily basis. As a department, we usually have civilian employees who compile our statistics for us and I know they do get some information out to area block captains. I hope we can do something with your idea because without the communities help we will not be as effective.
Don McLaughlin:
I noticed in the Journal report that the far northeast wealthier neighborhoods having supposedly more expensive cars have lower theft rates. Why?

Better garaging and possible patroling come to mind.

Also, is there some way the city or county could facilitate discounted glass etching and tracking systems?
Lt. Harold Prudencio:
Good morning Don. I would not say people in the far North East have more expensive vehicles and a lower theft rate just because they live in the NE. There are many reasons why the theft rate is lower in the far NE. First most homes in the far NE have garages and they usually use their garages. They also are near the end of the city limits and their population is not as dense as the inner city population. As far as VIN etching we will be holding a free VIN etching at the Wal-Mart on Carlisle and Menaul this Saturday (June 23) from 10:00 to 2:00 and the wait is usually no longer than half an hour. I hope I answered your question and see you on Saturday.
Arley Kennedy:
Chief Shultz, My truck was stolen about 10 years ago and the scumbag that did it still hasnt been caught. But I do know who he is because he left his court papers in my truck. Kinda crazy go to court in a stolen truck, I also gave the court papers and other evidence that he left in my truck to the sub on 2nd. If you would like his name please e-mail me back, I would love for you all to trace him to other thefts in Albuquerque. P.S. APD did lift
fingerprints from my truck when it was recovered.
Sgt. Louis Heckroth:
Arley,

I'm sorry to hear about your truck. While the statute of limitations has run out reference your stolen truck, I would like to get the offender information so that I could background him to verify how many arrests he has or if he is still an active thief. Please send me his information to lheckroth@cabq.gov.
Lt. Harold Prudencio:
Good morning Arley, sorry to hear about your stolen truck. The Chief could not be here today due to a State police officer's funeral being held today. As far as your auto theft it is past the statute of limitations for prosecution. please send me all the information you have on your case. I would still like to look into your case so I can advise you about what we know about your offender and to see if we can still target him if he is an active criminal.
Joe Martinez:
If APD and City Security uses Segways, why are they not allowed in the Convention Center?
Sgt. Louis Heckroth:
Hi Joe, As you can well imagine safety is always a concern. In a crowded interior this particular tool may not be the best mode of transportation, but it might be used in case of an emergency or if conditions (such as pedestrian traffic) would allow. Take care and thank you for your question.
.:
Why is it the APD considers home alarms a bottom of list priority?
I have been told this by more then one Officer. What is the point in charging homeowners a fee/license of your not going to response when our alarms go off?
Lt. Harold Prudencio:
Good morning. You are right -- home alarms are not usually listed as priority one call. There is one main reason -- a really high percentage of burglary alarms are false. I worked as a street cop for almost eleven years and during that time I probably responded to thousands of burglar alarms and during that whole time I only had two incidents that were actually true alarm calls. If we are notified by the alarm co that they can hear someone inside or a neighbor advises us there are offenders at the home they will be reclassified as a priority one and officers will be dispatched as soon as possible.
Mike S.:
Last fall, our house was broken into and my wife's purse and our cell phones were stolen. APD responded and took down information. A couple of days later, we received information regarding when and where credit cards were used, when the cell phones were used and who they called. We thought APD might be able to use this information to catch the theives. After trying to get somebody to return our calls and trying to pass this information to APD, we gave up and decided that APD was just not interested in catching the theives. A couple of my friends, ex-police officers, told me that unless the loss was over $20,000, APD would not pursue it. Perhaps this is why the wave of burglaries continues. APD doesn't try to catch the theives only provide a report number for the victim's insurance claim?
Lt. Harold Prudencio:
Good morning Mike, sorry we didn't do a better job for you. It does sound like we have leads on your case that can be followed up on. If you give me a call at 768-2338 I will see what I can do to get your case looked into. As far as cell phone information we usually don't have much luck with them due to new restrictions put in place by the Supreme Court. we usually do have luck with the credit card information though. I'm looking forward to hearing from you.
Jon:
Why does APD not consider home alarms a priority yet the city requires us to pay a yearly permit. I have been told you your finest homeowner alarms rank towards the bottom. With all the break-ins I would think they should be a rpriority.

Also why do you refuse to have a face to face meeting with anyone ?

On another track you want to better check places that deal with auto parts etc. Here is one way to help stop them from buying cars to dismantle, get a law pasted that "requires" the person selling the car to have the pink slip, title to the vehicle they are trying to off sell cheap.
And have a team that does nothing but check out these places daily, 7 days a week. Wrecking yards should be the first to be required to obey this law if passed. Now I want 15 minutes of your time in your office next week.
Ray Schultz:
We have been trying to get a law passed. We were in Santa Fe this last session lobbying for an auto theft authority. We envision that to be part of the motor vehicles.
I do meet with people on a regular basis all they have to do is call and make an appointment. I try to respond to all my emails within 12 hours. Because most alarms are homeowner error we prioritize based on the information that comes in concerning the type of alarm and the circumstances we determine the type of response they will get.
Patricia Baldridge:
Why is there nothing being done to help us recover our stolen dog?
Ray Schultz:
We work in concert with animal services on a theft of an animal. It is a larceny, and based on the solvability factors, we do work those and ocassionaly recover animals that have been stolen. Most recently we recovered a parrot stolen from a business.
.:
In reply to Lt. Prudencio answer to Justin about using any force needed just who is to determine when a threat to the family in their home is no longer valid? Jon
Lt. Harold Prudencio:
When it comes to court cases the way we have established that is what a reasonable person would do. If the offender is running away he may not be a threat anymore. But if he's running away armed with a weapon he could still be a threat to the victim or citizens in general. I hope that answers your question.
Scott Kern:
Why is it that the APD only takes action in response to the crime waves that are made public by the media. Perhaps if you were a more proactive police force that actually tried to stop the crime wave in Albuquerque before they got so out of control we would not have these terrible crime waves that seem to plague our fine city.
Sgt. Louis Heckroth:
Scott,

Thank you for your question and good morning. I would like to inform you that prior to these stories hitting the media, the Chief of Police did make property crimes a priority. Prior to getting promoted I worked specifically in a proactive tracking unit within the department. I was recently put in charge of the Auto Theft Unit with one goal in mind -- to pro-actively address auto theft. We are working hard and are trying to address these problems. It is a work in progress. Believe me nobody wants our unit to be a success more then I do. My family members have also been victims of auto theft and I remember how much this type of crime hurt them.
Ray Schultz:
We are always acting in a pro-active response in all new emerging crime trends. For example, our bait vehicles have been out in the field for the past two years to curb the auto theft problem before it was recognized by the media. We are also aggressively working identity theft rings and other organized theft rings to include organized shoplifters. Unfortunately, a lot of our pro-active enforcement is not adequately covered by the media.
Andrew:
APD used to offer a service where you could go down and pick up an engraver to engrave your items with your information. Do you still offer this service?
Ray Schultz:
No we do not. But we do request that people do through and complete inventories of their property to include serial numbers and phtographs. There are software packages that we suggest people purchase to help keep track of their property. We do have crime prevention officers who work at all of the area commands who will go out to business and homes and analyze the building to come up with suggestions on how to make things safer.
Rochelle:
How long does it usually take if finger prints are found at a crime scene to see if they match in the system?
Sgt. Louis Heckroth:
Hi Rochelle, First thank you for your great question. Many factors come into play, namely if the "Latents" or as some call them fingerprints, such as if the lifted latents are workable. When a latent print is lifted it will be reviewed if there is enough of ridges and "points" can be identified for a match. Once that is accomplished the Latent-point information is entered into a system called AFIS to search for a match. The nice thing about this system is the latent-point information is stored in the system until the day a match is made. Only if there is a current file of an known, or suspects prints on file can there be a match. If a workable latent is found, it is entered right away, then AFIS system goes to work, and if a match is made the information is forwarded to the Investigative Unit handling the case. A case is then worked up and an Arrest Warrant is requested (Arrest to follow), and then the case is taken by the DA's Office. As you can see it may be a long process, but in the end is an extremely effective method of putting together a solid case that many times never goes to trial, but the offender will plead guilty to the crime. Take care, and once again thank you for your question.
Lt. Harold Prudencio:
Rochelle, as a department we have made great improvements on processing finger prints at our crime lab. If I have the information I can usually call the lab and have them run the prints right away and I will get a response within days of my request. It will take a few days to get the paperwork back to us and we usually will seek a warrant for the offenders arrest. If we don't get the case sent to us the crime lab will process the prints and send the information to us on a monthly bases.
Andrew:
Thank you, if Lt. Prudencio or Sgt Heckroth can answer my priority question, I would appreciate it. What is the priority list?
Lt. Harold Prudencio:
Andrew, APD has a priority list for dispatching of calls based on the level of threat to the community and the caller. a priority one call will be dispatched as soon as officers are available and requires two officers. They are based on a high level of threat to citizens and officers. Priority two calls are based on a moderate threat level and may require one or two officers and they can be upgraded at any time if things change. Last of all is the priority three call. There is a very low threat level. these too can be upgraded at any time.
Bryan Kelley:
Well, the red light cameras you support supposedly freed up officers and reportedly took the place of 90 APD units. Why then are these statistics showing auto and home thefts showing such an increase despite the extra units available? (Edited)
Ray Schultz:
The crime rate increase last year in Albuquerque was at four percent. Crime in most major cities rose in excess of 11 percent. The additional resources have been successful in combating crime rates. Had it not been for the increase in auto theft alone, our total crime numbers would have actually declined in 2006.
Andrew:
How does "etching" work?

I've seen this advertised, but what is it exactly?
Ray Schultz:
Etching is when detectives used an acid an etch the VIN number onto the windows of your vehicle. A lot of vehicles are stolen for their parts and one of the most popular parts next to airbags is the auto glass. So by having your VIN numbers etched on the glass it is harder for auto thieves to sell those windows.
Don McLaughlin:
Dear Lt. Prudencio,

Thank you for your reply. I will plan for the VIN etching. (I wonder how effectively this has been advertised to the public.)

Re theft demographics, I accept your explanation that population density is a factor, but then aren't the statistics skewed if they are normalized by geographic area and not number of households and/or number of registered vehicles?

On an unrelated issue, I am aware that there is now an ordinance restricting cell phone usage while driving because I read about it one time in the ABQJ. If the city is really serious about this devastating practice, why has a vigorous awareness campaign not been mounted by the city - bilboards a-la DWI (call 311 to report offenders), media blitz (who among the offenders reads the ABQJ anyway?) embarassing offender postings similar to DWI, etc.? Also, has cell phone usage
been included in accident reports along with blood alcohol levels (perhaps from phone records)so some convincing statistics can be analyzed?
Ray Schultz:
Don, I will answer this question for the Lt. Being able to determine if someone was on a cell phone at the time of an accident is extremely difficult and will very often require a warrant to obtain cell phone records to see if someone was on a cell phone. When the new ordinance was enacted, we purpously did not begin enforcement for the first 30 days in order for the public to be educated about the ordinance. The ordinance was discussed at length with the media, on radio talk shows and throughout the news. The next 30 days only consisted of warnings and even today cell phone enforcement is a secondary enforcement violation and not a primary. We will continue to work with traffic safety advocates to better educate the public about cell phone usage.
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